Turtles All the Way Down: Prerequisites to Personal Genius
Author: John Grinder, Judith Delozier
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ISBN: 1555520227
Publisher: Metamorphosis Press (September, 1995)
Sales Rank: 79,537
Average Customer Rating: 4.14 out of 5
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Rating: 5 out of 5
Impeccable Internal Organizational Patterning
Turtles is a book for people already exposed in some degree to the basic tenets of NLP. It is not "about" NLP, but how to create logical structures and frameworks within yourself to employ these (and other) tools in a most effective and ecological manner. A great deal of emphasis is placed on applying the right energy to the right "logical level". Often, people are making the right move in a situation, but applying that move to the wrong logical level. This book is about identifying logical levels and having an internal structure that allows you to interface at the right time at the right logical level with the right change- the minimum effort that makes the maximum difference. Grinder is a master storyteller given his exceptional background, and he winds the teachings around interesting and compelling stories from his and other fascinating folks' experiences. Worth the read even if you never learned anything about NLP. Grinder's a cool dude! :)
Rating: 1 out of 5
Nothing New
Much as I hate an argument, I must point out that the previous reviewer is seriously misinformed if he thinks that the material in this book was in some way new or different from the original NLP.
Terrence McCLendon, writing in "The Wild Days : NLP 1972-1981" explains in detail how Bandler and Grinder discovered Castaneda's work (the basis of "New Code" NLP) in 1974, and quickly incorporated various ideas - especially "stopping the world" - into their teaching at that time.
Personally I found this book badly written and tedious in the extreme. So nothing new, and definitely not recommended.
Rating: 4 out of 5
The reference for learning about NLP's "new code"
The term "new code" refers to 1987, when this book came out. At that time, the ideas in this book departed quite strongly from the orginal "mechanistic" NLP framework. Today, some of the messages from this book still aren't "integrated" in mainstream NLP (which is a "buy" reason). Focus of this book lies on perceptual positions; trusting your unconcious (+ focussing your attention), and working with patterns (+ how to interrupt them). These are 3 messages that Grinder still stresses today (in 2001) and thet influenced my own thinking when I wrote "7 steps to Emotional Intelligence". Grinder still trains the material of this book on a regular basis in France (see www.....com) - reading this book is the "next best thing" if you can't make it to Paris. That said, to mine this book's content, you'd better have studied some NLP first: given that it is a transscript of a typical Grinder/Delozier workshop, structure isn't one of its strongest points...
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